Thursday, June 25, 2009

Latino immigration on track, again

Obama Is Committed to Immigration Overhaul
By HENRY J. PULIZZI, Online.wsj.com

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama said Friday that he wants to push comprehensive immigration reform through Congress before he leaves office, but he didn't elaborate on a timeframe for the politically thorny endeavor.

"I'm committed to passing comprehensive immigration reform as president of the United States," Mr. Obama said at the Esperanza National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast in Washington. "The American people believe in immigration."

The reform effort, which went nowhere during the Bush administration, isn't expected to gain traction this year either as lawmakers struggle with an already heaving workload that includes health care, energy, financial regulatory reform and a Supreme Court confirmation. And it's likely to be a heavy lift next year, as lawmakers head into mid-term elections.

The White House is hosting a meeting of lawmakers next week on immigration. That session has been postponed twice though, an indication that the issue isn't on the front burner.

Nonetheless, dealing with the 12 million illegal residents now in the U.S. and finding ways to handle the flow of foreign workings is a priority for businesses in the high tech and agriculture sectors.

Mr. Obama said the U.S. needs to build on efforts to strengthen border security, and clarify the status of people who have put down roots illegally.

"We can't tolerate a situation where people come to the United States in violation of the law, nor can we tolerate employers who exploit undocumented workers in order to drive down wages," he said.

Mr. Obama said illegals who want to become citizens should be required to pay a penalty and taxes, then go to the back of the line for eventual citizenship. That's similar to the proposals put forward by the Bush administration.

"That is the fair, practical and promising way forward," Mr. Obama said. "And that's what I'm committed to passing as president of the United States."

Write to Henry J. Pulizzi at henry.pulizzi@dowjones.com

3 comments:

Vicente Duque said...

Do Foreigners have any rights ??? - Do courts make Policy ??
Ius Peregrini, Ius Gentium, Ius Civile, Anglo Saxon "Habeas Corpus" - Consuetudinary Law

All courts in all countries make policy, even where the Law is not very consuetudinary, but very "Napoleonic" or "Roman" or "Law by a Book".

Wikipedia says :

""Consuetudinary (Medieval Latin consuetudinarius, from consuetudo, custom) is a term applied to law where the rule of law is determined by long-standing custom as opposed to case law or statute

Most laws of consuetudinary basis deal with standards of community that have been long-established in a given locale. However the term "consuetudinary" can also apply to areas of international law whre certain standards have been nearly universal in their acceptance as correct bases of action - in example, laws against piracy or slavery (see hostis humani generis). In many, though not all instances, consuetudinary laws will have supportive court rulings and case law that has evolved over time to give additional weight to their rule as law and also to demonstrate the trajectory of evolution (if any) in the interpretation of such law by relevant courts.""


The United States more than most countries is "Consuetudinary", law can evolve and change with any court ruling. This comes from England and the Anglo Saxon Law that entered into effect in England in the fifth century, after Christ.

I seem to perceive that the rest of the World is moving to consuetudinary and abandoning the books of Laws and Rules, or Religious Books that give recipes for everything.

It seems that some form of "Habbeas Corpus" was Anglo Saxon law ( before invasion of England ) and in Anciente Rome there was the Ius Peregrini for Italians, later Ius Gentium with some form of protection for foreigners.

More Wikipedia :

"Peregrini were accorded only the basic rights of the ius gentium ("law of peoples"), a sort of international law derived from the commercial law developed by Greek city-states, that was used by the Romans to regulate relations between citizens and non-citizens. But the ius gentium did not confer many of the rights and protections of the ius civile ("law of citizens" i.e. what we call Roman law).

In the sphere of criminal law, there was no law to prevent the torture of peregrini during official interrogations. Peregrini were subject to de plano (summary) justice, including execution, at the discretion of the legatus Augusti (provincial governor). In theory at least, Roman citizens could not be tortured and could insist on being tried by a full hearing of the governor's assize court i.e. court held in rotation at different locations."


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Vicente Duque

Tararista said...

"Mr. Obama said illegals who want to become citizens should be required to pay a penalty and taxes, then go to the back of the line for eventual citizenship." Fat chance. it's of greater benefit to stay in the shadows, get untaxed income, pay low rent while living in crowded housing and avoid that annoying thing called taxes so you can send dinero "back home".

Adrian Perez, Publisher said...

Tarasita,

Before you throw out uninformed opinions, study the real facts. You'll find that you're perspective is mistaken.